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Re: (ET) More Power Inverters




Amen!
 
john Briese
Minnesota





> From: metman glasgow-ky com
> To: noaddress drmm net; elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:01:35 -0600
> Subject: Re: (ET) More Power Inverters
>
> Chill out guys, you're gettin' way too bent outta shape here.
>
> And I'm sorry David, and maybe others also, but what I'm doing sure isn't
> illegal where I live and I don't consider it dangerous either. If it's
> illegal where you live, then I'm guessing you live in an area where local or
> state governments have way too much control over your individual rights.
> Maybe you live in one of those liberal states where the government feels
> they have to have a law for everything. Having such laws doesn't keep
> stupid people from doing dumb things. And there are people out there that
> probably shouldn't even be allowed to own tools, let alone do more than flip
> on a light switch when it comes to anything electrical. People need to be
> responsible for their own actions. If they do something stupid and get
> electrocuted, then so be it.
>
> Some of you guys must know a lot of people that have a lot more money than
> common sense. Even manual transfer switches aren't what I consider cheap,
> let alone the costs to install one.
>
> When I pull my main fuse block, it goes outside in back of the shop and
> stays there with the generator. And I've never been "too tired, distracted,
> or intoxicated to forget a step". And I sure as hell wouldn't ask my wife
> to make a switch like this on her own. Now for you guys with the automatic
> transfer switch gear and all; well more power to you, but there's that $
> again.
>
> As for the "cord with two male ends hanging around the house", I fully agree
> that that is very foolish. My "cord" is a short piece of 10-3 SO with a
> Russellstoll Ever-Lok plug that can only fit into the matching receptacle
> mounted in the outside back wall of the shop. Besides, this cord is plugged
> into it's receptacle before the generator is started. Then the L14 plug on
> the other end of the cord is connected to the now running generator.
>
> When you only do this maybe once a year, my method works fine and costs
> virtually nothing. If a guy can't remember the few simple steps to do this,
> then he's probably one of those guys I spoke of earlier that shouldn't be
> allowed to own tools, let alone an Elec-Trak or a generator.
>
> As for the "little kids" around the house, my sons are 36 and 39, both are
> in engineering fields, and neither is living at home. This ain't my first
> rodeo guys. I may live in Kentucky, but I wasn't born and raised here. But
> I am proud to have lived down here for the last 34 years or so, south of
> that old Ohio River.
>
> Mike in KY
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Roden" <etpost drmm net>
> To: <elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: (ET) More Power Inverters
>
>
> > On 12 Dec 2007 at 8:54, Mike Wallace wrote:
> >
> >> I just pull the main fuse block in my panel
> >> box, unplug the air compressor and then plug the output of the generator
> >> into
> >> that same outdoor receptacle and feed my power back into the house's
> >> panel
> >> box. No fancy and expensive automatic switching/disconnect system, but
> >> no
> >> danger to power company crews working on the lines either.
> >
> > Sorry, I have to mention that this procedure is illegal and dangerous. I
> > don't think it's a good idea to promote it in a public place, such as a
> > listserve that's archived on the open web.
> >
> > You may never electrocute a lineman or blow up your generator, but the
> > potential is there. A little too tired, distracted, or intoxicated, and
> > you
> > can slip up or forget a step. Trying to talk the spousal unit through the
> > process on the cell phone, again there is a risk of missing something.
> >
> > There's also the hazard of having a cord with two male ends hanging around
> > the house. I hope you don't have any little kids.
> >
> > A transfer switch can be as simple as a $100 (less on Ebay) Square D
> > lockout
> > panel for the backup loads. It pretty much guarantees that you'll never
> > hurt anyone with your backup power system. Cheap insurance, IMO.
> >
> > The ET can be very useful for backup power, but I'd hate to see anyone
> > killed as a result of using it for that purpose.
> >
> > End of sermon.
> >
> >
> > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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