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Re: Inquiry about bellringing lessons for high end tour promoter
Hi! Not yet; discussions are ongoing. I had sent him some questions, but
hadn’t heard back, and then I was really busy for a bit; I just resent the
questions, more fleshed out, asking about advance notice, number of
participants, what they expect, liability, etc.
Ricky
> On Nov 28, 2016, at 2:27 PM, Joshua Burson <joshburson09 gmail com>
> wrote:
>
> Did we actually ever come to a decision on this?
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Austin Paul <austinjpaul gmail com>
> wrote:
> I have a couple questions: How frequently would these tours come through?
>
> In my opinion, our tower time is limited, so the 2 hrs on Saturday
> should be for improving the band, and the ringing on Sunday a
> performance for service-goers. I'm assuming that the primary function of
> these tours would be to raise money for the church (if I'm wrong about
> this, then I probably have more questions). While I realize the church
> is doing us a favor by allowing us to ring in their tower, we currently
> repay this by having a band that can ring their bells to the best of our
> ability. Would it be disrespectful to ask the church to provide extra
> hours for these special tours? Then maybe the church could negotiate a
> handling-lesson rate with the teachers providing this extra service
> instead of trying to set a price that would make the band happy.
>
> If this is a rare (few times a year) deal, then maybe organizing outside
> time is excessive and too difficult. However, if it's happening at least
> once a month, then I stand by my above comments.
>
> Secondly, Ed is right in that we should decide what our 'tours' will
> consist of. People seem to be suggesting demonstration, handling
> lessons, and a trip to the top of the tower. However, as a ringing
> friend pointed out to me, we could only let people chime the bells and
> call that 'ringing'. Maybe we wouldn't charge as much, but this would
> also take away a lot of the hassle in terms of safety, liability, amount
> of time, and making sure enough trained teachers are present. We'd be
> able to accommodate larger groups as well. Just something to think
> about. For whatever reason, I feel less strongly motivated to bend over
> backwards to woo paying tour-goers than I do to our friends, visitors,
> and potential new recruits that visit the tower.
>
> Austin
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:44 AM, <lauradi rcn com> wrote:
> I have been wondering about liability insurance ever since they
> started the Behind the Scenes tours. Some of those people are literally
> crawling up the wonky stairs. I have no idea whether the church
> compensated the woman who hurt her wrist by falling off the bench after
> she decided she needed to take a picture out of the side window, but
> they are planning to get benches that are more stable (environmental
> control, rather than presuming one can trust a stranger's behavior).
> High-end people might expect to be offered more risks, which is why I
> made up the leaning out of the steeple window scenario, but I didn't
> stop to think about the "don't tell me what to do - I paid you"
> attitude.
> Laura
>
> From: "James Whiting" <jkwhiting gmail com>
> To: "Joshua Burson" <joshburson09 gmail com>
> Cc: "Andrew Tyler via Boston-change-ringers" <boston-change-ringers
> cosmos phy tufts edu>
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 9:28:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Inquiry about bellringing lessons for high end tour promoter
>
>
> We should also think about liability insurance for this. Having a
> random group of high-end tourists (who probably have expensive
> lawyers) walk up the tower and start ringing is very different from
> bringing friends for free. We will have no way of pre-screening people
> for how well they follow directions or what their physical condition
> is. And people who pay large amounts of money to do something don't
> like being told that they can't do it because they aren't behaving.
>
> James
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Joshua Burson <joshburson09 gmail com>
> wrote:
> > Oh, and: do we need to get permission from Old North for this whole
> > shpiel?
> > Or has that been handled already?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Ed Futcher via Boston-change-ringers
> > <boston-change-ringers cosmos phy tufts edu> wrote:
> >
> > Suggest we decide on a minimum and maximum number of participants as
> > well as
> > what the experience would entail.
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "lauradi rcn com" <lauradi rcn com>
> > To: Richard Morse <pukku mac com>
> > Cc: Boston Change Ringers <boston-change-ringers cosmos phy tufts edu>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 9:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: Inquiry about bellringing lessons for high end tour
> > promoter
> >
> >
> > How about $400 or so? Enough to compensate every ringer who comes to
> > practice at a wedding kind of rate (25) and an extra 25 each for
> > several
> > instructors. We should probably give each of the tourists a
> > one-per-learner
> > as a souvenir, but those only cost a couple of bucks apiece.
> >
> > Laura Dickerson
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard Morse <pukku mac com>
> > To: Boston Change Ringers <boston-change-ringers cosmos phy tufts
> > edu>
> > Sent: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 07:41:33 -0500 (EST)
> > Subject: Fwd: Inquiry about bellringing lessons for high end tour
> > promoter
> >
> > Hi! I got this message from Old North. I’ve said that we’re broadly
> > interested, but the details are going to be tricky. What kinds of
> > questions
> > should I ask to figure out said details? And any ideas or suggestions
> > for a
> > price?
> >
> > Ricky
> >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > > From: Steve Ayres <vicar oldnorth com>
> > > Subject: Inquiry about bellringing lessons for high end tour
> > promoter
> > > Date: November 7, 2016 at 11:18:42 AM EST
> > > To: Richard Morse <pukku mac com>
> > >
> > > Ricky,
> > >
> > > We are working with excursionist.com
> > <http://excursionist.com/> to
> > put together a high end tour package for small groups. They are
> > interested
> > in the possibility of bell ringing lessons as part of some of those
> > tours.
> > We would only offer them at the beginning or end of your regularly
> > scheduled
> > playing, i.e. Saturdays or Sundays.
> > >
> > > Would you be willing to offer a half hour lesson? If so, what
> > would
> > you want to charge? These folks are high end, so don't be bashful in
> > setting a price.
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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