RE: (ET) Re: newly designated librarian for elec-trak

["Solid Technologies" <solidtech qwest net>]

Herb/all,
  For the conversion of hardcopy (printed) to softcopy we should:
1. Do Optical Character Recognition (OCR) wherever practical - this takes 
up
LOTS less space for storage and transmission.  The only trick is having 
good
OCR software so accuracy is high.

2. Do graphics capture only for drawings - and do that at a high enough
resolution for all the labels on those schematics and those exploded views.

  Knowing the number of pages would be good - maybe just an estimate of the
number of inches of material and a good estimate of pages-per-inch would
suffice.  Spreading the work around is a good idea.  Maybe Paul can provide
this estimate?

  I also have the full Adobe Acrobat (not just the reader) product so I can
convert various formats into PDF files.

  Herb - you're right, I'm just down the road in Colorado Springs.  When's
the tractor pull this year?

--joe

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
[mailto:owner-elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu]On Behalf Of Herb Crary
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:28 PM
To: Elec-trak Mail List
Subject: Fw: (ET) Re: newly designated librarian for elec-trak


All,
I have been reading the discussion on the scaning of the manuals. I would
like to know the approximate number of pages involved. I think that may 
have
considerable effect on just how it should be done.

I might be able to participate. I am in Boulder CO, just under 100 mi from
Joe in Colo, I think. That might be useful. I have an old scanner with 
sheet
feeder. I haven't used it recently; it needs its rollers cleaned, etc. It
should work. I don't have the software to make the PDF files, however. If
the job is big enough, it might make sense to split up the scanning and/or
other parts of the task. I could probbably do some of the scanning, at
least.

It seems to me that scanning the pages in black-and-white would make sense;
it saves space in the image files and is possibly faster. Pages that would
benefit from full color could be done that way, I would think. I would also
suggest saving the image files for backup, etc., if possible. Using .jpg
image files would save the most space, but .jpg is a "lossy" format. Each
time a file is saved, you lose some resolution. Saving scan files once is
ok, but other formats should be used for subsequent saves. Copying a .jpg
file from one place to another is ok; only saving causes loss.

The resolution of the scan is also important. 150 dpi is normally all you
need for clear printing if you aren't doing any further enlargement. Some
diagrams or illustrations might need more in special cases.

Any comments or suggestions?

Herb Crary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Solid Technologies" <solidtech qwest net>
To: "'Paul Wood'" <pw12423 earthlink net>; <elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:58 AM
Subject: RE: (ET) Re: newly designated librarian for elec-trak


> All,
>   In my opinion, the most logical person for the role is Don Barry.  We
are
> grateful to Don for the Elec-Trak web site and, if he has the time, 
> having
> him serve as librarian would be a natural corollary.  Don (below) asked
for
> someone to help prepping the materials.  We could do something like:
> 1. Paul ships materials to Joe Rock
> 2. Joe gets them all copied/prep'ed for scanning
> 3. Joe ships clean set to Don
> 4. Don scans and posts materials.
>
>   That would also most likely result in two sets hardcopy.  Anyone aware
of
> an antique tractor museum where we could have the originals kept (of
course,
> only if they had an ET on display)?
>
> thoughts?
> --joe
> ET-15 in Colorado
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
> [mailto:owner-elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu]On Behalf Of Paul Wood
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:05 PM
> To: elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
> Subject: Re: (ET) Re: newly designated librarian for elec-trak
>
>
> Dear Ralph and Elaine,,
> Please consult Joe in Co., Chuck in MN, and two others offerers for the
lib.
> job.
> The gent in MN with nothing else to do all day sounds like best suited 
> for
> the slot, but  Joe in CO was first and I vote for Joe or MN gent, 'but  I
> have no appointee standing, so
> advise me when you are finished conferring.  Best luck.
> Paul  Wood
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ralphgv" <ralphgv netzero net>
> To: "Elec-trak group" <elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:28 AM
> Subject: Fw: (ET) Re: newly designated librarian for elec-trak
>
>
> > Paul,
> >
> > I have an old scanner with no sheet feeder.  I found out I can scan
pages
> > with an art program with the scanner set at black & white only and set
the
> > brightness midway.  The yellow becomes white on the copy.  Save them as
> .bmp
> > files.  You can also cleanup the copies with the art program before you
> save
> > them.  A sheet feed scanner can scan all the pages into an art program
> > putting each page on a separate file automatically.  If/when they look
ok
> to
> > you, OmniPage Pro can import them and convert them to text and .pdf
files.
> >
> > Ralph & Elaine Vogan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don Barry" <Don Barry kirbycorp com>
> > To: <pw12423 earthlink net>; <solidtech qwest net>
> > Cc: <elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:30 AM
> > Subject: (ET) Re: newly designated librarian for elec-trak
> >
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > I have a brand-spankin' new HP D145 printer-copier-scanner. The scanner
> has
> > am automatic  sheet feeder on it. I recently also purchased ScanSoft's
> > OmniPage Pro Office software ($400), which is made for bulk feeding of
> > documents.
> >
> > I've scanned a bunch of stuff for my Homeowners' Association, it works
> quite
> > fast, and outputs PDF's complete with indexes.
> >
> > Fair warning though, because of their age, most ET documents will need
to
> be
> > photocopied first to remove the "yellowing" (all modern copy machines
have
> > special algorithms to do this), and then scan in the photcopy output. 
> > IN
> THE
> > CASE OF MANUALS, ETC, THIS MEANS CUTTING THE SPLINE OF THE MANUALS
> > (unbinding them) , so you can sheet-feed the pages.
> >
> > We also need to be aware of not posting up the ET Homeowner's manual as
> Bill
> > Gunn sells that one.
> >
> > So I can scan your stack of stuff, but the stack may not look very
pretty
> > afterward!
> >
> > Anybody want to be an assistant to get Paul's stack of stuff decently
> > photocopied?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Don
> > Humble Webmaster of www.elec-trak.org & www.elec-trak.com
> > 1970 E-15, fully restored
> > Houston, Texas
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>