Re: (ET) Curtis controller mod

Given the field amperage is less than 2 amps at full strength the power loss through the resistor is quite small. I think the actual net power consumed by the field and resistor is lower when they are reduced. The trick is making sure you stay in an efficient part of the motor performance. Generally I think the motor works with better efficiency when there is minimal field weakening and is lightly loaded.

From: "Briggs, Michael" <Michael Briggs unh edu>
To: "elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu" <elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>; "noaddress drmm net" <noaddress drmm net>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: (ET) Curtis controller mod

I think that the problem with running in field weakened mode frequently is that the field weakening is accomplished by putting a resistor in series with the field coils. Any time you have additional resistance in there, you're wasting energy across it (like the toaster resistors). That's why I try to drive mine in third speed whenever possible - the toaster resistors are only used in the first two speeds, and field weakening doesn't start until the 4th one.

So ideally the field weakening should only be used occasionally, not when doing active things (mowing, etc.).

Mike
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From: David Roden <etpost drmm net>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 6:38 PM
To: elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
Subject: Re: (ET) Curtis controller mod

On 28 Apr 2016 at 10:51, Kim Petty wrote:

> I think I will end up mostly using the tractor in fieldweakened mode
> with 2 resistors in line and switching to full field voltage if I need
> it.

I'm not a motor expert, but I think I remember reading that most motors are
most efficient (I take this to mean less heat) at full field. Normally you
use field weakening as a sort of overdrive.

That said, this may not be the case with the GE motor - it may be designed
for use with FW.

Maybe the motor experts here will weigh in on this. Absent that coaching, I
think I would try to run the motor at full field most of the time.

PS - If I recall right, Mark Hanson built his own controller for an ET years
ago and used full field. To get the higher top speed back (and probably
then some), he added 2 more batteries to the motor circuit for 48v.

Robert, your Curtis setup sounds good. I think yours is the one I remember
reading about lo those many years ago.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA

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