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Re: (ET) Motor Break in
Little slow this
morning.....
Also, blowing out the motor and commutator surface removes carbon dust that can
cause tracking and cleans the undercut slots out. Make sure there are no
marks, gouges, or rough nicks on the commutator surface. If so, polish
using non-metallic sandpaper and apply seater stone if possible and blow out
again.
Always pull back on the brushes to make sure the springs are working with even
tension and the brushes are not bound up in the holders.....
Check connections
for tightness.
One of the
best tools is a Mechanics stethoscope to listen to bearings, transmission,
etc.... for abnormal noise.
..Walt
Brushes
are "seated in" using a seater stone (white chalky stone) that produces abrasive
dust that goes under the brush to round the brush face in and remove commutator
film. Do not use commutator stones that remove copper (and come in various
grades - fine, medium, etc..) because they remove commutator copper which imbeds
into the brush faces and causes threading and other bad things. They are
meant to "true up" a commutator if the surface becomes
rough.
With
seated brushes, there is no other concern in running a new (or rebuilt) motor at
full load.
...Walt
another way is to use a "com-stone". I've not done it yet but I
believe the procedure is: use a 12 supply and put the stone to the
commutator. it adds grit to the comm which curves and seats the
brushes. do for about 20 or 30 minutes stop maybe every 10 minutes and
pull the brushes. what you are looking for is a nice even curvature across
the brush that indicates the entire face of the brush is contacting the
comm. don't stop until you get that.
ciao,
dave b
On Tue,
July 21, 2009 9:46 am, Chris Tromley wrote:
> I'm not so sure about that.
I'm not an authority and I've been off
> the EVDL for years now. But
common knowledge there is that new
> brushes take awhile to bed into the
commutator. There have even been
> cases where brushes were supplied with
no curvature at all.
>
> On an EV that will be drawing hundreds of
amps almost constantly,
> getting the brushes to mate with the commutator
before loading it will
> reduce arcs and sparks. I'd pull a brush or two
and see how much of
> the available area is actually contacting the
commutator. If it was
> over 50% I'd drive it easy for 100 miles and then
let 'er rip. If not
> I'd do some sort of bed-in procedure. I remember
people saying to
> hook up a constant 12V supply (won't cause overspeed on
a 96V rated
> series motor) and let it run for hours.
>
>
Chris
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Konstanty, Walter (GE
Infra,
> Energy)<Walter Konstanty ge com> wrote:
>>
On electric motors, there is no break-in period. DC motors are
usually
>> load tested to overload and ac motors are at least no load
run. Bearings
>> and brushes are seated to allow immediate full
load operation. Insulation
>> hi-pot and resistance tests check
integrity of the system.
>>
>> On large DC machines we
run them to build a film up on the commutator.
>> Industrial customers
do not baby machines so they are designed to run at
>> rating out of
the box.
>> As Dennis states, drive it like you stole
it.
>>
>> ...Walt Konstanty
>> GE Motors
>>
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>>
From:
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>>
[mailto:elec-trak-bounces cosmos phy tufts edu] On Behalf Of RJ
Kanary
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:51 AM
>> To: Pestka,
Dennis J
>> Cc: Elec-Trak Email Discussion List
>> Subject:
Re: (ET) Motor Break in
>>
>>
What does the manufacturer recommend? If it
is a brush less motor, I
>> can't envision any break in being
necessary. Drive it like you stole it. <G>
>>
>>
RJ
>>
>>
>> Pestka, Dennis J
wrote:
>>
>> Now that I have my 65 Datsun truck running, I
would like some
>> suggestions on breaking in the motor.
>> At
present the motor probably only has ~ 2 hours on it.
>>
>>
Should I try to drive at a certain RPM ?
>> Is keeping the RPM higher
better than lower ?
>> Any other suggestions ?
>>
>>
Motor - FB1-4001A Advanced 9".
>> (13) 156V of Odyssey PC-1750
Batteries.
>>
>>
>> Thanks;
>>
Dennis
>> Elsberry, MO
>>
http://www.evalbum.com/1366
>>
>>
>>
>>
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