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Re: (ET) steering spindle sticking



No, it has to be mail ordered, and usually from your area's distributor.
This shop uses so much for various things that I get it by the case.  The
MA distributor is out of business, retired.  If I weren't 'semi retired'
myself woulda taken that distributorship over from him.
When you order, get a couple of cans.  This will average the shipping
down.

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 22:30:19 -0400 "Banks, Michael J."
<mbanks protopower com> writes:
> Did a quick search on-line for the Gibbs rust breakfree stuff, and 
> found
> places to order it.   Do you know if any chain stores carry it?  
> Napa
> Autoparts, Home Depot, Lowes, etc?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David C Robie [mailto:mycroftxx1 juno com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:14 PM
> To: Banks, Michael J.
> Cc: elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
> Subject: Re: (ET) steering spindle sticking
> 
> On anything like this, I use the best 'rust breakfree' product I 
> have
> ever fopund, and that is Gibbs.  The stuff is expensive but well 
> worth
> it if you are into old mechanical items.  It gotta soak in there for 
> a
> while, 5 or 10 minutes.   WD40 is useless it don't creep hardly at 
> all. 
> Just spray it  on the top of the spindle where the joint is and let 
> it
> creep in there.
> I do not recommend heat unless it's a last resort.   Chances it 
> ain't
> galled (yet) but if it is, Gibbs will help that too.   As to
> dissasemble,
>  Don't think you'll have to, based on past experience with other
> tractors. 
> 
> As to the 'gear stripping'.  It's a safety valve.  If it gets to be 
> too
> loose and strips a lot, there is a casting underneath that holds the
> sector gear and you will find too much front to back play in the 
> shaft
> for that gear.  Shim the shaft that goes to the front of the 
> tractor. 
> Sometimes excessive stripping is caused by too much up and down play 
> in
> the steering wheel's shaft.  Undo the collar that holds it down and
> reset it upwards a bit.  Proper play you should have a little less 
> than
> 1/8 turn of the steering wheel before the bars at the front shows
> motion.
> 
> Dave
> Weymouth MA
> 
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:42:55 -0400 "Banks, Michael J."
> <mbanks protopower com> writes:
> > My father-in-law's neighbor was getting rid of his E-12.   He was 
> the
> > original owner.   My father-in-law said he would take it and gave 
> it 
> > to
> > me.     I have had it about 2 months now. 
> > I love it, so does my 2 and 1/2 year old son.    Anyways....
> > 
> > It had been working fine, then this Saturday while I was mowing, 
> the
> > steering started to get very tight.    It went from working fine 
> to 
> > I
> > couldn't turn more than a quarter of the usually steering travel.
> > After doing some searching on the internet I thought that it 
> hadn't 
> > been
> > greased recently.     So I jacked up the front end.   I couldn't 
> > turn
> > the wheel off the ground.   I disconnected the left (when sitting 
> on 
> > the
> > tractor) spindle from the steering wheel.    I couldn't move the 
> > spindle
> > by hand more than a quarter of the travel.   So I greased the 
> > spindle
> > and grease came out the bottom but not the top.    Adding grease 
> > allowed
> > the spindle to move from the steering wheel when it was off the 
> > ground.
> > Once I put it back down on the ground it got tight again and the
> > steering wheel would skip teeth.    I then greased the other side 
> > and
> > grease came out the top and the bottom.   
> > 
> > Currently,  If the tractor is moving I can turn the wheels.  It is 
> 
> > tight
> > but they turn.   If it is stopped, the wheels will turn but it 
> will 
> > skip
> > teeth in the steering wheel gear.
> > 
> > I then jacked the tractor up again, took the wheel off and took 
> the C
> > clip of the top of the spindle.    I couldn't get the spindle out.
> > 
> > To make a long story short.    Any advice on getting the spindle 
> out 
> > of
> > the front end?   Or Any advice on the tight steering in general?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Mike Banks
> > New Happy Owner of an E-12
> > Connecticut
> > 
> 
>