Re: (ET) especially for Chris Zack

[Chris Zach <czach computer org>]

Running a fuel cell off the LNG line is a cool idea; only problem is gas 
is now way over a buck a therm as opposed to $.25 cents back in the bad 
old days of 1999. Ah well.

I am seriously thinking of getting a 3600 watt inverter and rigging the 
Elec-trak as a house backup pack. With 160ah of flooded NiCDs I should 
be able to run the fridge for a few days (for example)

Chris


Elie, Larry (L.D.) wrote:

> A nice old idea.  We at Ford did that both for hybrids (research
> quantities... Not for sale) several years ago.  The more exciting one
> was the Fuel Cell car that powers the house... From your natural gas
> line yet, and also compresses to LNG for it's own use during the day.
> Note I said natural gas-- the idea was abandoned when CO2 was determined
> by the public to be a problem some greenhouse gas.  They don't plumb H2
> lines to your house folks, even though the Fuel Cell would be happy.
> Way too expensive anyway, but they built a concept in 1999 as I recall.
> Nor was the idea original with us.  If you can size it right, the cell
> could power the house and sell back enough excess to the grid to pay for
> all the power you would use during the day.  Don't hold your breath; I
> don't expect it in my lifetime.
>
> Larry Elie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elec-trak-bounces cosmos phy tufts edu
> [mailto:elec-trak-bounces cosmos phy tufts edu] On Behalf Of robert
> winfield
> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 12:54 PM
> To: elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
> Subject: Re: (ET) especially for Chris Zack
>
>
> as a reader and infrequent contributer...
>
> http://tronweb.super-nova.co.jp/toyotadreamhousepapi.html
>
> I am not sure if anyone has come across this link
> it is a 689 sq m (7,400sqft) house.
>
> The most interesting quote and solar/alternative
> energy related. and electric car/hybrid
>
> (You have grid tied PV with a true rational for
> battery backup)
>
> "...Toyota Dream House PAPI was designed to interface
> with other Toyota technologies. One of the most
> important of those other technologies is Toyota Motor Corporation's
> Prius hybrid sedan, which can also be used to supply electricity to the
> intelligent house for 36 hours in an emergency, such as an earthquake
> that cuts off normal electrical supplies. 
>   
> Conversely, the house can supply electricity to the
> battery packs of the vehicles via the stand in the
> middle of the garage. Some of that electrical energy
> can be obtained from solar cell panels that cover the
> roof, plus the sides of the structure. The house also
> uses solar heating and fuel cells, which makes it a
> kind of hybrid energy house..."
>
>
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