Re: (ET) newer batteries are tougher?

[PH <pholzsc yahoo com>]

Hi Jim
Yes older batteries take more time to charge, but the
Landis controller solves this problem.
Landis is the best $40 I spent on my ET is years.
With the Landis the ET is "always" charged regardless
of battery age.
Check it out on the club site under classified or
contact Harry Landis at hlandis hotmail com.
Thanks,
Paul Holzschuher
C185
--- Jim Coate <jbc coate org> wrote:

> It's been my impression that it is the other way
> around in that old 
> batteries require more time to get charged. Of
> course I may be thinking 
> of really old, versus 'middle aged'.
> 
> A brand new pack will not be at full capacity yet,
> so can't used all 
> those KWH promised yet, so won't need a super long
> bulk charge, but may 
> well need a fair amount of equalization for a few
> cycles until 
> everything wakes up.
> 
> A new pack used enough to be broken in requires the
> longest bulk charge 
> phase to replace all those available KWH, but has a
> short equalization 
> period as the cells generally match pretty well. If 
> it is cycled to its 
> full capacity, then would indeed require the long
> charge time.
> 
> A middle age pack is losing some capacity so less
> KWH can be used and in 
> turn less KWH need to be replaced, so the bulk phase
> does get shorter. 
> As balancing becomes more of an issue, more time is
> needed to equalize. 
> I'm not sure if the total charging time is all that
> different.
> 
> On truly old packs, such as in my truck :-(, the
> bulk phase is rather 
> short since not many KWH involved. But the
> equalization phase takes 
> forever as I have to keep the current very low to
> avoid lots of heat and 
> gassing but meanwhile some cells are lagging far
> behind and need that 
> time to catch up. So although the total power
> involved is low, the total 
> time is loooong.
> 
> I don't use the GE charger on my ET... now I'm
> curious if that timer is 
> "calibrated" to give the longest time to new or old
> batteries?
> 
> 
> 
> Thon Basom wrote:
> > I've seen references a couple of times to the fact
> that newer batteries need
> > to stay on the charger for longer periods of time
> than older ones.  Can
> > someone give me a simple explanation of why?
> 
> 
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