Re: (ET) Re: et/solar

["daveb" <daveb seanet com>]

> PV, Solar, Wind, micro hydro, 
>ET are all part of the problem 

I think you mean part of the SOLUTION.  right?  :^)

very informative (and to my mind appropriate) post thanks for sharing...

dave
seattle

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From: robert winfield <winfield100 yahoo com>
To: Oasis654 aol com, elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
Sent: Mon, 31 May 2004 09:46:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: (ET) Re: et/solar

> Oasis654,
> I am not sure how appropriate this is for the ET forum
> since it is Solar PV. The ET?s do run on batteries and
> Chris Zach in Baltimore has a totally solar PV powered
> ET.
> Here is some info.
> http://www.dsireusa.org/
> this is a site which details financial incentives,
> which differ wildly state to state, in the USA. Right
> now the US is experiencing a shortage of high wattage
> panels due to Germany, Italy and Spain having national
> programs to PV their countries, Holland is buying ALL
> the output of GE wind turbine manufacturing
> http://lists.topica.com/lists/RE-wrenches/read?sort=d&start=15187
> (RE-Wrenches list)
> 
> California, New York, Delaware, New Jersey, Illinois
> and a few others offer quite lucrative incentives to
> homeowners for PV.
> 
> New Jersey offers a rebate of up to $55,000
> ($5.50/watt) for a grid tied, netmetered PV of up to
> 10kilowatt system. IE, for a net cost of about $23,000
> you can buy most of your electricity forever a single
> time
> New York offers between $4.00 and $5.00 for up to a
> 15kilowatt grid tied system rebates
> (i.e., some one giving you a check of between $60,000
> and $75,000 to make your own electricity)
> 
> Maryland has a program that gives a measly 15% tax
> credit (better than zero) up to $2,000 that ends this
> year
> (the meter runs backwards on my system occasionally
> here in Maryland)
> (I have a tiny 1.2kw system and would like a 6-10kw
> system but big buck$)
> I would like to go all electric and use a 48v system
> to invert (lower wire gauge) and have the ET be 48v as
> part of my battery bank.
> I made a LOT of mistakes with my initial system
> I got Amorphous Silicon thin film panels which was at
> best 5% efficient and now are about 4% (20%
> degradation in 6 years) and they are no longer
> manufactured due to QC problems. They are hi voltage,
> 81v each,
> (Only one company still manufactures thin film)
> If I got another inverter to use for them, I could
> only use something like a Sunny Boy (no battery
> inverter but in the low 90?s efficiency as it is high
> voltage but I hate even the idea of fiddling with up
> to 4-500v DC)
> I got an Omnion Inverter and I have to maintain it due
> to the company going out of business. (what warranty!)
> 
> I would get single or poly crystal panels only.
> http://altenergystore.com/
> http://www.sunelec.com/
> (lower cost Renewable Energy supplies for the handy
> person as examples)
> 
> http://homepower.com
> Very good magazine on Renewable Energy
> 
> http://www.solar-guppy.com
> dude who has several arrays and forums
> 
> Solar panels are essentially commodities and I would
> go for lowest cost per watt but make sure they have at
> least 12-14% efficiencies
> (Also remembering that any panels in a series string
> are current limited to the LOWEST amperage panel)
> I would get a battery capable Inverter like
> OutBackPower.
> http://www.outbackpower.com
> grid tied with battery inverters
> 
> I firmly believe the grid is going to go down a lot
> more often simply by driving about my neighborhood and
> looking at the NON-maintenance of the electric lines
> and all the trees growing up through the lines.
> Hurricane Isabel was an eye opener.
> 
> Hence, we have to start relying on ourselves for
> continuous electricity. PV, Solar, Wind, micro hydro,
> ET are all part of the problem
> 
> --- Oasis654 aol com wrote:
> > hi folks, i think there are several people on this
> > list particularly
> > interested in solar/electrak technology.  would any
> > of you care to talk more about a
> > package of solar gizzmos we could use to get
> > started? a standardized, entry
> > level solar package, easily replicated?  thanks jon
> > k albany ny, where there is a
> > solar house tour coming up soon.
> 
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