Re: (ET) Re: pack not isolated from frame??

[Dave & Debbie Barden <daveb seanet com>]

there is an unused button on the right side that I had surmised was for a 
long 
ago missing horn.  straight below it is the PTO plug.  is that where the 
I-5 
had the PTO??  But what throws me is the GE symbol on the front grill.  
but 
sinces that's a casting I suppose it's possible that the wheelhorse would 
have 
that????


> Red-orange paint huh?  It may be an I-5, they do use frame 
> grounding, on the horn circuit.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Humphrey Timothy H Contr AFRL/IFEC 
> <Timothy Humphrey rl af mil>
> Date:  Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:22:17 -0000
> 
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dave & Debbie Barden [mailto:daveb seanet com] 
> >Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 3:39 AM
> >To: rjkanary nauticom net; tcoate coate org; elec-
> trak cosmos phy tufts edu;
> >daveb seanet com
> >Subject: (ET) Re: pack not isolated from frame??
> >
> >
> >because of some red-orange paint I thought for a while it might 
> be a
> >wheelhorse 
> >but the the GE symbol is there on the front grill.  there's no 
> hole up front
> >
> >where the PTO plug may've been. The tractor has been painted JD 
> green
> >including 
> >the name plate on top of the dash unfortunately and the data 
> plate under the
> >
> >hood isn't there.  Unless I can get some info off the painted 
> plate atop the
> >
> >dash I'm afraid all I'll have to go on is physical description.  
> the
> >tractor's 
> >on the island and it'll be friday before I can get there again.
> >
> >thanks for the warning/confirmation that I've a dangerous 
> situation that
> >must 
> >be fixed immediately.  I'm taking that to heart...
> >
> >dave
> >seattle
> >
> >>       As my Dad, the electrician who had 30 years of experience 
> with 
> >> DC operated overhead cranes would say, "Son, you've got 
> something 
> >> that's 'gone to ground'."
> >>     {Actually, in most cases two items have to fail to make 
> obvious 
> >> symptoms.}
> >> 
> >>     The most common culprits in the Elec-Trak(r) are.......
> >> 1.) Armature resistor contactor bushings.
> >> 2.) Armature terminal bushings on the traction motor, or brush 
> >> rigging.
> >> 3.) Lift motor.
> >>      This situation is VERY dangerous, and must be investigated 
> and
> >repaired
> >> immediately.
> >>     I have never seen a tractor with the PTO outlet where you 
> have
> >described
> >> it. Give us the numbers from the data plate, under the hood, 
> and I think
> >we
> >> can puzzle it out.
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dave & Debbie Barden" <daveb seanet com>
> >> To: <rjkanary nauticom net>; <tcoate coate org>;
> >> <elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:54 PM
> >> Subject: pack not isolated from frame??
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >
> >> > I was working on my modified E15 (?) today, and while 
> loosening a
> >> connection on
> >> > one the cable connections I grounded to the body with the 
> wrench and 
> >> > got
> >> an
> >> > ugly juicy spark.  That doubly surprised me because I am 
> always 
> >> > careful
> >> around
> >> > battery terminals and potential grounds but also because I 
> thought 
> >> > that if
> >> the
> >> > pack was not grounded to the frame you wouldn't/shouldn't get 
> >> > current
> >> flow??
> >> >
> >> > So what gives here am I under a mis-impression and showing my 
> >> > ignorance or
> >> do I
> >> > have a ground somewhere that I shouldn't have??
> >> >
> >> > Also since this tractor has been modified by the previous 
> owner I 
> >> > don't
> >> really
> >> > know what model it is.  My E12S has the PTO plug up front on 
> the 
> >> > left.
> >> This
> >> > one has the PTO plug down by my right foot.  Would this be an 
> E15 or 
> >> > E20
> >> or???
> >> >
> >> > thanks much,
> >> > dave
> >> > Seattle
> >> > E12S
> >> > E?? modified
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
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