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The following 3 messages seem not to have been delivered to some or
all recipients, because of some computer problem at my site.  Thus I
am sending them again.  Sorry if they turn out to be duplicate.

                                Ken

>From owner-elec-trak  Fri May 12 10:57:47 2000
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Subject: (ET) tiller for sale
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hi et folks, 
    an electrak tiller in pretty rough shape has just come my way and is 
available.  it's only the tiller, which is complete, not the lift, nor 
mounting bracket.   2 tiller motors come with it, one works, one dosen't.  
$100.  near albany, ny.  thanks, jon k


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Subject: Re: (ET) E-12S
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Darryl, Allan, Wombat, et al

    Thanks for all your repsonses.

    I just got off the phone with Bill Gunn.  As you all know he's 
extremely
knowledgeable, helpful and best of all for me patient.

    If I understood him correctly some of the earlier E20's reversed the 
field
as does my E12S and some of the later E12S's reversed the armature.  In any
case both methods were used at different times for the same models.

    I bought a relay and a varister on Bill's advice and probably will not 
use
the $1.49 relay from Hosfelt.  I don't know what the varister does exactly 
but
it sounds like a protection device of some sort that is susceptible to 
aging
(weather and the elements) my impression is that it is cheap insurance for
your motor ($4.85).  Bill also offered this bit of advice which I'm sure 
many
of you have heard or know already but I'd like to pass it on.  To 
paraphrase
Bill:  ...first be sure to come to a complete stop before changing 
directions.
Next be sure that the the relay energizes before the L contactor when 
starting
to go backward and that the L contactor de-energizes before the relay when
going into forward.  His mantra to remember this was "Relay, first in last
out".  I hope I paraphased him correctly.  If someone thinks or knows that 
I
didn't please say so!

    The way to insure the relay is first in and last out is with the little
arm below the direction/speed lever under the dash that can be bent.

    Before anyone tries this I strongly suggest you verify with Bill or
someone who has done it before.

thanks again,
    dave

wombat wrote:

> According to my service manual, the "12S" is the same motor hookup as the
> "15" with the drive motor having a field winding.  Not a PM motor like 
> the
> "12".
>
> wombat


>From owner-elec-trak  Fri May 12 11:21:43 2000
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Subject: RE: (ET) Dandelions (humor)
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I am afraid I have to confess (Oh the shame)  it is a two stroke. But, I
keep it very well tuned, and the blade very sharp, use environmentally
friendly oil. 
 However, It is my only "dirty engine" . I have converted my F150 to 
Natural
Gas, I car pool to work' I gave an electric weed eater and chain saw. I
recycle and compost (mulch) all my yard waste, including "doggy do" and I
build and restore with used and recycles material whenever possible. I also
use biodegradable cleaners and solvents usually vinegar and alcohol, and
occasionally "SIMPLY GREEN"
When I get the E12 running I will be able to "retire" the little green 
stink
pot. 
Geof Thompson B. Sc.
Data Management Engineer
Canadian Hydrographic Service
Central and Arctic Region
867 Lakeshore Road 
Burlington, Ontario
Canada. L7R 4A6 


Phone (905) 336-4698
Fax (905) 336-4698
E-mail Thompsong dfo-mpo gc ca  


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Brian Matheny [SMTP:bmatheny mediaone net]
        Sent:   Friday, May 12, 2000 10:35 AM
        To:     elec-trak cosmos5 phy tufts edu
        Subject:        Re: (ET) Dandelions (humor)

        At 07:57 AM 05/12/2000 -0400, you wrote:
        >for my ordinary lawn mower. It's a 4.5 HP Lawnboy (so boring).

        Oh no! Say it ain't so - a 2-stroker?  May the people who make 
those
be
        locked in a room with one running until they pledge to never make
them again!

        -Brian  34,900+ EV miles since 5/97!  Charged by biomass, wind,
solar!
        http://people.ne.mediaone.net/bmatheny/ws3f.htm