Re: (ET) Fridge design.

[Allan <allanhv worldnet att net>]

It's great that it warms your house in winter. For that matter, I don't 
worry
about lights, PC, etc. wasting energy in the winter because it warms my 
living
room. What bugs me is that in the summer I run the AC to cool the house 
while
the fridge, PC, lights, water heater, etc. all pour heat back in. Some 
days,
when it's cool outside, seems like the AC runs just to remove the heat 
produced
by the appliances! Then, though I'm not sure I believe the theory, to add
insult to injury, the AC heats the outside ("global warming", etc.), so I 
have
to run the AC more each year!

I know this isn't the right forum for these questions, but since you 
started
it...

1. If all forms of kinetic energy result in heat (eventually), and we are 
using
energy which had been stored in trees, coal, oil, etc. (potential energy),
releasing that potential energy will generate heat. Where will all that 
heat
go? It must either (a) warm the planet, (b) escape our atmosphere, 
somehow, (c)
get stored somehow (e.g. grow trees, etc.).

2. If the planet started as a glob of molten rock, how did it cool off? The
heat must have gone somewhere.

3. If we can figure out where the heat "went", can we get rid of our excess
heat (i.e. "global warming") in the same manner?

4. How did the ice ages come about? Again, where did all the heat go? From 
a
molten glob to a ball of ice, then back to a nice, warm planet. What 
happened
to conservation of energy?

Just think... I we could store heat until winter, we'd all be rich!


Max Hall wrote:

> >> Wouldn't putting the fridge outside during an ice storm
> >> be a more energy efficient way to keep your milk cold?
> >>
> >> ...just a thought from the frigid california coast...
> >>
> >If you mean unload the fridge, disconnect the ice maker, bounce a couple
> >of hundred pounds of appliance down the ice covered stairs, level it,
> >plug it in and reload it, then listen to my wife explain what she likes
> >best about going outside to get milk for her coffee. Nope, I'll spend
> >the extra electrons.
>
> Dan's right: even though it gets f'ing cold up here, it's not easy to set
> that Fridge on the porch... when it gets cold.
>
> But isn't goddam funny to have a big box (the house) that we burn energy 
> to
> keep warm from the ambient (outdoor) temp, and inside it, we put a little
> box (the fridge) that we burn energy to keep cold against the ambient
> (indoor) temp? Hah! I say. Hah HAH hah!
>
> Fortunately, any inefficiency in the fridge's operation winds up as heat 
> in
> your house, so for a change you really do get something for your spent
> electrons! How often can you say that about so-called "waste" heat? 
> Verges
> on a free lunch.
>
> -Max, who won't store hot dogs in the snowbank anymore not since....
> nevermind.