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Re: (ET) Another mower motor blows.



I have the neuton CE6 set up in a 54inch MTD deck for 3 seasons.  Works wonderfully.   The 54 inch deck fits snugly under a mid mount unit and is easier on the batteries due to the extra width. 

On 6/12/2018 10:06 PM, John Jeno wrote:

I've been looking at replacement deck motors.

I have used the Black and Decker 36v drives and they are still running (2yr - 1acre).

Another deck has tall motors and the terminal insulation is failing.  I could switch a couple out with HD fat drives but would like to try newer drives.


It seems the TORO 20" model #20360 uses the Ametek CPM-160.  About 970watts. 

Motor + Fan + base+ blade,washer,nut = $245.87 from E Replacement.


The Neuton CE6 motor setup, Motor + Fan + base+ blade,washer,nut = $138.54.

Anybody have any experience with these mowers?



From: Rod Hower <rodhower ameritech net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:45 PM
To: Charlie; Christopher Zach; Elec-Trak
Subject: Re: (ET) Another mower motor blows.
 
I'll check with the guys at work, Ametek-Rotron Lamb electric, build thousands of PM motors, many of which are used as starters and sit beside the engine.  I'm sure those guys have some pretty good ideas on which glues hold PM's in place. http://www.ametekdfs.com/dfsbrands/drivemotors/pmdc-motors


On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:57 PM, Charlie <medievalist gmail com> wrote:


Steve Naugler figured out how to reglue the magnets, I think.  Somebody did, anyway, you should be able to find it in the mailing list archives.

--Charlie

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 7:22 PM Chris Zach <cz alembic crystel com> wrote:
Well, had the usual deck motor failure. This seems to happen every other
year or so with tall thin motors:

Mows fine one weekend.
Start mower next weekend, tractor pulls huge amount of current. Blade is
stopped.

Blade free-wheels, wiring to motor is smoked.

Take motor top off, commutator is burned, and armature is obviously
shorted. Motor destroyed.

Any idea why this happens? The inside of the motor was dry, no problems,
plenty of brush. It's as if the laminates just decide to fail and burn
everything up.

Now to buy some more motors, my supply is low. This never happens to fat
motors, they just have the magnets deglue and shatter all along the
inside. Once again no reason, is there a glue that will hold them?

C

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