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Re: (ET) Steering skipping



Thanks everyone for your suggestions.  I wouldn't be surprised if the bushings I added before are worn - it's probably been at least 3-5 years - and I think the teeth on the gears are also worn in the middle.  It has no trouble when the wheels are turned beyond the middle 10-15 degrees.  I'll take a look this weekend and see what I can do.

Thanks again,
Doug

 

From: jlantonucci comcast net [mailto:jlantonucci comcast net]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:59 AM
To: cleanpower att net; elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
Subject: Re: (ET) Steering skipping

 

I have found that the brass busings wear as well.  Its hard to tell but if you measure them at the outer edge you will find they are larger.  I replace them if that is the case.

 

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From: Harold Zimmerman - Clean Power Supply

Date: Wed, Oct 12, 2016 6:37 PM

To: elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu;

Subject:Re: (ET) Steering skipping

 

 Doug, There is a pretty good chance that either the gear on the steering wheel shaft is worn from skipping or that the same may be true of the fan gear. On top of that, the fan gears are extremely prone to becoming loose on the shaft, allowing it to flex forward and consequently skipping. If the fan gear is loose but both gears are in good condition, the fan gear should be welded solid to the shaft. I do this routinely when rebuilding tractors. Then the shaft with the fan gear on it must be forced back against the steering wheel shaft gear and shims installed until you can just barely get the cotter pin in anymore. Sincerely, Harold Zimmerman Clean Power Supply Ephrata PA 717-859-4234 Supplier of parts for General Electric Elec-Trak, New Idea and Wheel Horse Electric Tractors.On October 11, 2016 at 8:53pm -0400, you wrote:>My Alltraxed E15 is having trouble again with the steering - hard to move>and skips if you push it too hard.  A number of years ago I had the same>problem and fixed it by following the steps I found in the archive.  I've>searched the archive again, and all I found was this:>>            If your steering is skipping, here is what you might want to>try:>>1) Loosen the bolts on the pillow bearing up at the front of the sector>shaft. This is important.>2) Loosen the collar on the steering wheel and pull it out of the steering>block at the bottom.>3) Take off all the shims and the cotter pin from the sector shaft. This is>really important as otherwise you will never get things lined up right.>4) Push the sector shaft forward till it hits the front wheel beam. Get some>slack.>5) Loosen the two bolts that hold the steering block. They're the closest>ones to the block; the other 4 hold the box to the tractor.>6) Blow out the crud behind the block and push it all the way back. Go all>the way.>7) Tighten the steering block bolts.>8) Put in the sector shims and cotter>9) Put the steering shaft gear back into the block. It should mesh tightly.>10) Tighten the bolts on the pillow bearing.>That should do it. My problem was if I tried to tighten the block bolts with>the washers and cotter in place it would never line up snugly. Skip skip.>Then when I put it together without loosening the pillow bearing bolts it>would bind there.>Fun.>Chris>>Unfortunately I didn't save the date of this post.  But this seems more>complicated than my very limited recollection of what I did previously that>involved adding shims, which cured the problem back then.  I have a better>recollection of finally finding the shims (brass load bearings or something>like that) in the plumbing department at the hardware store, than I do of>putting them on the tractor.>>Any ideas?>>I have a jpg of the steering assembly (surprisingly called "steering>assembly.jpg"), which I also found in the archives.  I've tried to follow>these instructions looking at the picture, but the names are different.>What are the "pillow bearing", the "sector shaft", the "steering block" (and>I'm only on step 2!), front wheel beam.  I might be able to figure it out if>I actually went out and looked at the tractor, but it's cold and dark, and I>thought I'd try the experts out there before it got colder and darker, as it>will be very hard to turn once the snowblower is on it!>>Thanks,>Doug McCorkle>>Alltraxed E15>>_______________________________________________>Elec-trak mailing list>Elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>https://cosmos.phy.tufts.edu/mailman/listinfo/elec-trak------------------------------------------------------Sent without a computer from my MailBug email machine.landel.com, 1-855-MAILBUG, getmailbuginfo landel com------------------------------------------------------_______________________________________________Elec-trak mailing listElec-trak cosmos phy.tufts.eduhttps://cosmos.phy.tufts.edu/mailman/listinfo/elec-trak