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Re: (ET) E20 electronics compared to clones



                 Within the versions,yes .The eight speed versions come in AA-BA & CA-DA types. The primary differences are in the non-interchangeable control cards found in the AA-BA versus the CA-DA types.

                  Once you get into the seven speed models, in the I-5 there is some blurring of the types.A DA I-5 tractor could well be found with eight speeds instead of seven. Or not.:) It can be figured out quickly by counting the number of armature resistor terminals.   Three terminals is a seven speed, four terminals is an eight speed.


RJ

Charlie wrote:
Does anybody know if the I-5 and other E-20 clones used the same
electronics as the E-20?  The E-15 sounds a bit... nightmarish.

--Charlie

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:29 PM, CZ <cz alembic crystel com> wrote:
  
On 10/27/2011 2:04 PM, David Roden wrote:
    
One of the more memorable afternoons using the E15 was the one when I had
to
reverse the tractor by lifting the hood, tilting back the unscrewed relay
panel, and manually engaging the reverse relay.  That was the final straw.
The Alltrax went in shortly after that, and the controller headaches went
away.
      
Ok, I will have to agree after using this thing for a few weeks that the E15
is cool, but very sub-standard. I really am finding myself kind of liking
the throttle, maybe it's because I don't need to keep my foot on the pedal
(although the E20 has cruise control that makes that good). It's not
intuitive, but I do kind of see the appeal.

As long as the brakes work.

But the E15's control system is terrible compared to the E12 and E20.
Reversing the field was probably the stupidest idea they could have come up
with; I don't know who thought that one up but they should have been forced
to carry the tillers to the dock. The E20's contactor reversing of the
armature equals no problems, and if they do start to go you can simply flip
and reverse them and get another 40 years of life.

So yeah, I can see why a poor befuddled E15 owner would say "That's enough"
after burning up yet another relay. The fact that simply moving the throttle
switches the relay is silly enough. If you're at speed 0 the field should be
*off*, no exceptions.

Maybe that's one thing that killed the Elec-trak; once they started selling
the cheap controllers they more than lost on the service calls and returned
units. The E20 would have been a tank by comparison.

Ah well.

Chris



    
This is not to say that the Alltrax is the only suitable controller or
necessarily even the best.  There are others.  Almost any, with the
possible
exception of the really cheap Chinese sweatshop junk, would be more
reliable
than GE's 3-decade-old parts - and more pleasant to use, too.


David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA

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