RE: (ET) More on wheelweights

["Elie, Larry (L.D.)" <lelie ford com>]

Your right; weight is weight.  I was just talking how much fit INSIDE the
box.  Other put 
lead from tire balancer in the box; your local tire dealer will give you
them pretty cheap.  
I currently have 6 batteries in my weight box.  The bottom three end about
3" short of the 
top of the box.  The top three have only about 2" in the box.  I have in 
the
past added an 
EXTENSION to the box, and ANOTHER 3 (9 total! but some are 'little car
batteries') to the 
box.  That's too much weight; the tractor does wheelies with less than the
weight of the 
snow-blower (300#) on the front.  Did I mention the seat I once put on the
back?  No?  
I used an old station-wagon 2 passenger seat facing back on 2 rails on the
back of 
an ET.  The kids had fun, but 2 adults and wheelies even with the mower 
deck
on!  
The seat is farther behind the center of gravity than the weight box.  The
back axle 
can handle a bunch.

Larry Elie


-----Original Message-----
From: Pieter Litchfield [mailto:plitch attglobal net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 4:08 PM
To: Elie, Larry (L.D.); steves; elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
Subject: RE: (ET) More on wheelweights


Ok - but my rear box is deeper than 3 batteries.  If you need more traction
than provided by 3 batteries, add something else.  Lead is fine, steel is
fine.  Concrete blocks (not cinder blocks) are cheap and easy to find.  I
didn't suggest that the batteries should be left at home and concrete
substituted, so the logic of "lead is heavier than concrete" fails to move
me.


-----Original Message-----
From: Elie, Larry (L.D.) [mailto:lelie ford com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:39 PM
To: 'Pieter Litchfield'; steves; elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
Subject: RE: (ET) More on wheelweights


3 Good sized batteries outweighs all the concrete you can put in the box.
Lead is twice as dense as concrete.

Larry Elie


-----Original Message-----
From: Pieter Litchfield [mailto:plitch attglobal net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:32 PM
To: steves; elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
Subject: RE: (ET) More on wheelweights


I would think with 3 batteries in a rear box (or 3 batteries sitting on 
some
concrete pavers in the box), you would have plenty of weight for a blower.
I am trying to push a blade or lift 300 lbs (I guess), and traction does 
get
scarce with several concrete blocks in the box, even with chains on my turf
tires.  But since using the blower doesn't require pushing dirt (hopefully
anyway), your traction requirements are likely to be a lot less.  I'd try
just the batteries in the box first, maybe add some blocks on the bottom if
needed, wheel weights as a last resort.


-----Original Message-----
From: elec-trak-bounces cosmos phy tufts edu
[mailto:elec-trak-bounces cosmos phy tufts edu]On Behalf Of steves
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:43 AM
To: elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
Subject: Re: (ET) More on wheelweights


The FAQ on the website addresses the issue somewhat:

http://www.ezweights.com/faqs.htm

When our wheels are turned 'in' the hub sticks out a fair amount as I
recall - I need to measure. In this case EZweights doesn't seem too 
positive
about how they mount. I would think it would be preferable to have each
metal bracket a zigzag shape, so it is flat at the bolt holes, then turns
out 90 degrees to the hub distance the 90 degrees again to go across the
hub: In cross section they would be like this:

       ________
___|                |___

Hope that comes out ok. I would think that would be a lot stiffer. Of 
course
I'm looking at adding three batteries in the rear 'toolbox' to run the
blower, so I  may have enough weight anyway.

SteveS
E20
<SNIP>


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