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Re: (ET) Elec-trak Digest, Vol 10, Issue 201



     The big Klixon® mounted on the traction motor has all the loads with the exception of lighting and the lift in series with it. It kills everything, not just the traction motor.Additionally the thermal limiter in the field windings protects the motor only by opening the RTN circuit.With that thought in mind,that Klixon's rating may not reflect what the traction motor can safely draw.The E-20 tractor has a 125A Klixon® the lesser tractors use a 100A model.

RJ


On 12/30/2012 10:09 AM, Robert wrote:
Yes, Thanks. I'm surprised at the HP, I thought it would be higher as GE advertised the E20 as having the power of a 16 HP tractor. Back then ICE garden tractors had much lower HP, usually in the range of 5 to 8 HP. Of course, as many of you know electric motor HP and ICE HP are two quite different animals and this is where electric motors shine. Also torque curves are much broader for electrics. I'm going to do some empirical testing of the motors I have (4 wire ohms, etc.) to see what kind of amps the controller needs to be but ball park figures: 746 watts = 1HP, according to your data at 25 amps; 25 x 36 = 900 ; 746/900 = 83% efficiency which is surprisingly good! What I will have to do is figure the maximum current just before the breaker pops and add 50% to this to make the circuit durable. I can probably get a good idea from the winding resistances and the shunt used across the current (load) gauge. Anyone have those specs? If not I can probably dig one out from my recently acquired stuff and measure it. I did get some circuit diagrams too showing how GE regulated the motor back then, that should help too. Didn't someone say the breaker pops at about 100 amps? That would make sense.
Thanks again for your help guys!
Rob

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From: David Brandt <ev_dave13 yahoo com>
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Robert, this is an email that was sent on the list recently by walter Konstanty.? I hope it will help you.
?Elec-Trak Motor Descriptions
Elec-Trak Motor Descriptions
Reference: Model/ID # HP/Size  Volts Amps RPM If Rf Winding Mounting
Drive Motors E15 5BCY56RA6  1 36 25 2250 1.9/.5  Stab Shunt foot
E20 5BCY56TA2  1.2 36 30 2250 1.9/.5  Stab Shunt foot
Demo ES-93A-33 D&D  3.5 36 85 2900 5  Shunt foot
E12 5BCE56KB5B  1.5 36 37 3500 2.25 16 Stab Shunt foot
GE "JB" motors 5BC48JB529 / 302 2 36 52 3300   Series foot
Mower Motor  7.5" tall 5BPA34NAA7 datecode EFN 0.6 36 15 4000 none  PM flange
6.5" tall Bosch/Danaher BA3816-815-1 0.6 36 15 3200 none  PM flange
Snowblower Original 5BC49JB131A / 142A 2.5 36 66 3100 4.8 22 Compound foot
Lift Original 5045631 Delco Window Motor 0.25 18  slow none  PM flange
Original - higher volts run @ 24VDC - check heating  24  faster
ATV Winch - Walt's ATV 12VDC Winch assembly 1 12 30 fast none  PM foot
Tiller Original 5BC49JB133B 2.5 36 66 3100 4.8  Compound foot
Updated WJK 3/31/09

David Brandt

From: Robert <euclid delhitel net>
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Subject: Re: (ET) motor ratings


Hi group,
As I've said before I'm designing motor controllers (thanks for the links). I sent an email to Steve Shore asking if he has any info on the motor requirements but if anyone here has the info you have please send it along. I need to know what the max current draw of the largest motor is (E20). Also what's the HP of the E20 motor? I figure once the E20 is designed I can use the same drive for the rest of the 'fleet'.
I know there are controllers around but they are several hundred bucks, once I know what the current specs are I can get a better idea of how to proceed.
Thanks for the help,
Rob
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