Hello, I looking at buying an E15 for a local high school band to pull
their
equipment carts for band competitions. Is there any specifications on what
the E15 can pull?
Thanks
Stephen
Sprovost provtechs com
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1. Tiller information needed (Christopher Zach)
2. RE: Tiller information needed (Markus Lorch)
3. Re: Tiller information needed (Christopher Zach)
4. RE: Tiller information needed (Markus Lorch)
5. RE: Tiller information needed (Dave & Deb)
6. Re: Tiller information needed (Darryl McMahon)
7. RE: Tiller information needed (Elie, Larry (L.D.))
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:04:26 -0500
From: Christopher Zach <czach computer org>
Subject: (ET) Tiller information needed
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Ok, so it looks like I will be driving up to PA this evening to pick up
an Elec-Trak tiller and rear lift. Oh goodie. I also received a large
shipment of POR15 rust paint to fix it up. Going to be a fun winter
cleaning it all.
Now for the big question: Does anyone with a tiller have any thoughts,
tips, tricks or other advice? Is this thing bigger than the snowblower?
Heavier? How do you use it? Do I need to put a rear PTO plug on my
tractor? Can I leave the lift in all the time? Does it use the same
controls as the front lift?
Help
Chris
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:26:32 -0500
From: "Markus Lorch" <mlorch vt edu>
Subject: RE: (ET) Tiller information needed
To: "'Christopher Zach'" <czach computer org>, "'Elec-trak list'"
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Chris:
Here a couple of quick answers:
Now for the big question: Does anyone with a tiller have any
thoughts,
tips, tricks or other advice? Is this thing bigger than the
snowblower?
Heavier?
I don't have a snowblower and I'd guess its a bit smaller, but it's
HEAVY ... two men have plenty to do loading it.
How do you use it? Do I need to put a rear PTO plug on my
tractor?
Yes, my tractor is wired for a rear PTO with a andersen style
connector - its in parallel with the front PTO so you cannot.
Plus you need a small connector for the lift power (12/18V).
Can I leave the lift in all the time? Does it use the same
controls as the front lift?
yes you can. It has separate controls - a switch mounted on top
of it "up-off-down".
I like to remove the rear lift. as it sticks out and I keep hitting
things with it when I back up.
You will also need the tiller bar which must be mounted to the rear
axle. see http://markus.lorch.net/et/more-pics/082004-et-tiller-3.jpg
Markus
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:39:17 -0500
From: Christopher Zach <czach computer org>
Subject: Re: (ET) Tiller information needed
To: Markus Lorch <mlorch vt edu>
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I don't have a snowblower and I'd guess its a bit smaller, but it's
HEAVY ... two men have plenty to do loading it.
Oh great. Yaknow, I'm really going to need a second shed in my yard.
Mainly to hold all this *STUFF* I keep installing on the tractor.
Yes, my tractor is wired for a rear PTO with a andersen style
connector - its in parallel with the front PTO so you cannot.
Plus you need a small connector for the lift power (12/18V).
18 volts is simple enough; I guess that just ties into the tractor.
yes you can. It has separate controls - a switch mounted on top
of it "up-off-down".
So you have to reach back to lift/lower it. Is this a pain in practice?
You will also need the tiller bar which must be mounted to the rear
axle. see http://markus.lorch.net/et/more-pics/082004-et-tiller-3.jpg
This apparently comes with that too. Thanks for posting the picture
though, now it makes more sense as to how this all puts together. Do you
leave that bar on forever, and does it interfere with the normal uses
for the tractor?
Chris
Markus
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:56:35 -0500
From: "Markus Lorch" <mlorch vt edu>
Subject: RE: (ET) Tiller information needed
To: "'Christopher Zach'" <czach computer org>
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So you have to reach back to lift/lower it. Is this a pain in
practice?
Nope, not for the few times I used it. Its not a bad design I think.
You are constantly looking backwards anyhow when you have the tiller
in operation. However, for my rear bucket I use a winch with a much
larger switch which I can mount on top of one of the fenders, which
is a bit more convenient.
This apparently comes with that too. Thanks for posting the picture
though, now it makes more sense as to how this all puts
together. Do you
leave that bar on forever, and does it interfere with the normal uses
for the tractor?
Yeah, I like the bar. I think it looks pretty good. I call it my wheelie
bar ... (I wish) ... maybe I should put a zilla controller in there to
get the front end off the ground - LOL
The is almost never a problem. I find it really useful, out of a few
2x4s and a sheet of plywood I made a simple deck that fits under the
tractor and rests on the tiller bar. It was my first approximation of
a bucket. It works great to move some dirt/flower boxes/mulch etc
around the yard. I even used it to move a heavy dish-washer once.
I also use the tiller bar to mount my rear bucket but I am planning
to change that.
Markus
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:42:45 -0800 (PST)
From: "Dave & Deb" <daveb drizzle com>
Subject: RE: (ET) Tiller information needed
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my e15 came with a tiller but I've yet to use it (have new lift motor to
install) but the bar was mounted and never in the way.
the fella I bought it from wired in a remote switch that just lays on the
rear fender and unplugs when not in use.
but like I said I've not used it yet... my winter time project (one of
them) also!
Dave
So you have to reach back to lift/lower it. Is this a pain in
practice?
Nope, not for the few times I used it. Its not a bad design I think. You
are constantly looking backwards anyhow when you have the tiller in
operation. However, for my rear bucket I use a winch with a much larger
switch which I can mount on top of one of the fenders, which is a bit
more convenient.
This apparently comes with that too. Thanks for posting the picture
though, now it makes more sense as to how this all puts
together. Do you
leave that bar on forever, and does it interfere with the normal uses
for the tractor?
Yeah, I like the bar. I think it looks pretty good. I call it my wheelie
bar ... (I wish) ... maybe I should put a zilla controller in there to
get the front end off the ground - LOL
The is almost never a problem. I find it really useful, out of a few
2x4s and a sheet of plywood I made a simple deck that fits under the
tractor and rests on the tiller bar. It was my first approximation of a
bucket. It works great to move some dirt/flower boxes/mulch etc
around the yard. I even used it to move a heavy dish-washer once.
I also use the tiller bar to mount my rear bucket but I am planning to
change that.
Markus
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:47:47 -0500
From: "Darryl McMahon" <darryl econogics com>
Subject: Re: (ET) Tiller information needed
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> I don't have a snowblower and I'd guess its a bit smaller, but it's
> HEAVY ... two men have plenty to do loading it.
Oh great. Yaknow, I'm really going to need a second shed in my yard.
Mainly to hold all this *STUFF* I keep installing on the tractor.
I have both the tiller and 36" blower. The blower is definitely heavier
(and I
have the small version). However, as noted above the tiller is no
lightweight.
Definitely a 2-man job to lift it. One person can roll it on the tines -
I've done
that a few times.
> Yes, my tractor is wired for a rear PTO with a andersen style
> connector - its in parallel with the front PTO so you cannot.
> Plus you need a small connector for the lift power (12/18V).
My tiller came with a very long PTO cable. No problem at all draping it
over the
fender, through the footwell and up to the main PTO at the hood.
18 volts is simple enough; I guess that just ties into the tractor.
My tractor came with the rear lift and a plug that hooked up to the rear
18-volts
of batteries. Nice offset from the batteries used by the front lift.
> yes you can. It has separate controls - a switch mounted on top
> of it "up-off-down".
So you have to reach back to lift/lower it. Is this a pain in practice?
Not too bad. You get to know where it is pretty quickly. Of course, with
my small
garden (short runs), I use this more than most.
> You will also need the tiller bar which must be mounted to the rear
> axle. see http://markus.lorch.net/et/more-pics/082004-et-tiller-3.jpg
This apparently comes with that too. Thanks for posting the picture
though, now it makes more sense as to how this all puts together. Do you
leave that bar on forever, and does it interfere with the normal uses
for the tractor?
I leave the bar on forever. Good foot holds for extra ballast (my son)
when
extra
traction is required. I have not encountered any significant issues with
the bar,
other than catching a piece of fence when I took a corner too sharp in a
tight
maneuvering situation. Makes a handy place to secure rope for pulling,
e.g.
taking
the boat out of the lake in the fall until the trailer is on dry ground.
Chris
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Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com/
It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will?
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:52:38 -0500
From: "Elie, Larry \(L.D.\)" <lelie ford com>
Subject: RE: (ET) Tiller information needed
To: <darryl econogics com>, "Christopher Zach" <czach computer org>
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I too have the long cable. One must keep it tied in front as well. Hint
on
moving alone; the pully is geared something like 10 or 20 to 1... moving
the
belt or pully with one hand will walk the tiller along a few inches to
attach. Don't pinch your fingers.
My guess is tiller weighs 280 lbs or so, the 42" tiller around 350. The
tiller has lots of places to grab on to. The blower is far more aquard...
nothing good to hold on to.
Larry Elie
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Subject: Re: (ET) Tiller information needed
> > I don't have a snowblower and I'd guess its a bit smaller, but
it's
> > HEAVY ... two men have plenty to do loading it.
>
> Oh great. Yaknow, I'm really going to need a second shed in my
yard.
> Mainly to hold all this *STUFF* I keep installing on the tractor.
I have both the tiller and 36" blower. The blower is definitely
heavier (and I
have the small version). However, as noted above the tiller is no
lightweight.
Definitely a 2-man job to lift it. One person can roll it on the
tines - I've done
that a few times.
> > Yes, my tractor is wired for a rear PTO with a andersen style
> > connector - its in parallel with the front PTO so you cannot.
> > Plus you need a small connector for the lift power (12/18V).
My tiller came with a very long PTO cable. No problem at all
draping it over the
fender, through the footwell and up to the main PTO at the hood.
>
> 18 volts is simple enough; I guess that just ties into the
tractor.
My tractor came with the rear lift and a plug that hooked up to the
rear 18-volts
of batteries. Nice offset from the batteries used by the front
lift.
>
> > yes you can. It has separate controls - a switch mounted on top
> > of it "up-off-down".
>
> So you have to reach back to lift/lower it. Is this a pain in
practice?
Not too bad. You get to know where it is pretty quickly. Of
course, with my small
garden (short runs), I use this more than most.
>
> > You will also need the tiller bar which must be mounted to the
rear
> > axle. see
http://markus.lorch.net/et/more-pics/082004-et-tiller-3.jpg
>
> This apparently comes with that too. Thanks for posting the
picture
> though, now it makes more sense as to how this all puts together.
Do you
> leave that bar on forever, and does it interfere with the normal
uses
> for the tractor?
I leave the bar on forever. Good foot holds for extra ballast (my
son) when extra
traction is required. I have not encountered any significant issues
with the bar,
other than catching a piece of fence when I took a corner too sharp
in a tight
maneuvering situation. Makes a handy place to secure rope for
pulling, e.g. taking
the boat out of the lake in the fall until the trailer is on dry
ground.
>
> Chris
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