Re: (ET) Re: pack not isolated from frame??

["T Humphrey" <thumphrey mynra com>]

The I-5 is a GE tractor not a Wheel-Horse.

Yes the horn is button is mounted on the right, but your PTO is in 
a very strange location (to me). The I-5 plugs were located very 
similar to the large frame E Series tractors.  

I think we need pics.

Stay Charged!
Hump


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Dave & Debbie Barden <daveb seanet com>
Date:  Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:29:12 US/Pacific

>there is an unused button on the right side that I had surmised 
was for a long 
>ago missing horn.  straight below it is the PTO plug.  is that 
where the I-5 
>had the PTO??  But what throws me is the GE symbol on the front 
grill.  but 
>sinces that's a casting I suppose it's possible that the 
wheelhorse would have 
>that????
>
>
>> Red-orange paint huh?  It may be an I-5, they do use frame 
>> grounding, on the horn circuit.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: Humphrey Timothy H Contr AFRL/IFEC 
>> <Timothy Humphrey rl af mil>
>> Date:  Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:22:17 -0000
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Dave & Debbie Barden [mailto:daveb seanet com] 
>> >Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 3:39 AM
>> >To: rjkanary nauticom net; tcoate coate org; elec-
>> trak cosmos phy tufts edu;
>> >daveb seanet com
>> >Subject: (ET) Re: pack not isolated from frame??
>> >
>> >
>> >because of some red-orange paint I thought for a while it 
might 
>> be a
>> >wheelhorse 
>> >but the the GE symbol is there on the front grill.  there's no 
>> hole up front
>> >
>> >where the PTO plug may've been. The tractor has been painted 
JD 
>> green
>> >including 
>> >the name plate on top of the dash unfortunately and the data 
>> plate under the
>> >
>> >hood isn't there.  Unless I can get some info off the painted 
>> plate atop the
>> >
>> >dash I'm afraid all I'll have to go on is physical 
description.  
>> the
>> >tractor's 
>> >on the island and it'll be friday before I can get there again.
>> >
>> >thanks for the warning/confirmation that I've a dangerous 
>> situation that
>> >must 
>> >be fixed immediately.  I'm taking that to heart...
>> >
>> >dave
>> >seattle
>> >
>> >>       As my Dad, the electrician who had 30 years of 
experience 
>> with 
>> >> DC operated overhead cranes would say, "Son, you've got 
>> something 
>> >> that's 'gone to ground'."
>> >>     {Actually, in most cases two items have to fail to make 
>> obvious 
>> >> symptoms.}
>> >> 
>> >>     The most common culprits in the Elec-Trak(r) are.......
>> >> 1.) Armature resistor contactor bushings.
>> >> 2.) Armature terminal bushings on the traction motor, or 
brush 
>> >> rigging.
>> >> 3.) Lift motor.
>> >>      This situation is VERY dangerous, and must be 
investigated 
>> and
>> >repaired
>> >> immediately.
>> >>     I have never seen a tractor with the PTO outlet where 
you 
>> have
>> >described
>> >> it. Give us the numbers from the data plate, under the hood, 
>> and I think
>> >we
>> >> can puzzle it out.
>> >> 
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Dave & Debbie Barden" <daveb seanet com>
>> >> To: <rjkanary nauticom net>; <tcoate coate org>;
>> >> <elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:54 PM
>> >> Subject: pack not isolated from frame??
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> > I was working on my modified E15 (?) today, and while 
>> loosening a
>> >> connection on
>> >> > one the cable connections I grounded to the body with the 
>> wrench and 
>> >> > got
>> >> an
>> >> > ugly juicy spark.  That doubly surprised me because I am 
>> always 
>> >> > careful
>> >> around
>> >> > battery terminals and potential grounds but also because I 
>> thought 
>> >> > that if
>> >> the
>> >> > pack was not grounded to the frame you wouldn't/shouldn't 
get 
>> >> > current
>> >> flow??
>> >> >
>> >> > So what gives here am I under a mis-impression and showing 
my 
>> >> > ignorance or
>> >> do I
>> >> > have a ground somewhere that I shouldn't have??
>> >> >
>> >> > Also since this tractor has been modified by the previous 
>> owner I 
>> >> > don't
>> >> really
>> >> > know what model it is.  My E12S has the PTO plug up front 
on 
>> the 
>> >> > left.
>> >> This
>> >> > one has the PTO plug down by my right foot.  Would this be 
an 
>> E15 or 
>> >> > E20
>> >> or???
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks much,
>> >> > dave
>> >> > Seattle
>> >> > E12S
>> >> > E?? modified
>> >> >
>> >> >
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