Re: (ET) E20 transmission whine and overhaul advice request

["RJ Kanary" <rjkanary nauticom net>]

      Yes, I do. After my Sys. Admin. conquers her latest internet 
disaster,
I shall ask her to scan and post the images on her server . Stay tuned.
     As far as the noise is concerned, let's face it, the Peerless 
transaxle
isn't exactly a piece of precision engineering.If you really want to quiet
it down, it can be done, but it IS tedious, and time consuming . Adjusting
the endplay, for each assembly, separately , is the ticket.
      Plus, a larger bearing is available for the input shaft.
Other modifications include having the case machined, to accept Torrington®
bearings in some locations, in lieu of thrust washers.
      The loose gear concern can be remedied with  a VERY thorough cleaning
of the affected parts, and reassembly using 640 Loctite®. The thorough
cleaning  aspect can not be over stressed . As you will find, the materials
chosen by Tecumseh® were not of the highest quality, and the gears are 
quite
porous, making oil removal difficult.
    If you decide to spend the time, the result will be a tractor that is
eerily quiet. With even normal ambient noise outside, you CAN sneak up on
people.That's the fun part, especially if your tractor has a VERY loud horn
on it !<G>


RJ Kanary  Bandi Bros. Inc.
Member TRNi  Since 1998
ASE® Certified Master Auto Technician

rjkanary nauticom net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Leuba 604-888-9050, fax -9442" <leuba cncrepair com>
Cc: "Electrak List" <elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:32 PM
Subject: (ET) E20 transmission whine and overhaul advice request


> The transmission whine while mowing the grass has been getting louder 
> over
the last 2
> years.  Yesterday the whine was so loud that I started thinking of 
> getting
ear plugs, or
> taking the transmission apart and replacing the (imagined) offending
bearing.
>
> I took the transmission apart, 90W oil was clean and proper level, no
metal flakes at
> all in case.  I used heat and a brake drum puller to remove wheel hubs
(remove 2 set
> screws on each hub), a bearing puller to remove axle shaft housing &
outboard bearing.
>
> The gears and bearings all look good (after 30 years of use?!), only 
> minor
shifting gear
> wear.  I think the offending whine maker is an idler shaft that has a
splined gear  and
> a integral gear, and maybe a missing thrust washer.  The splines (fine
splines) are
> loose and the gear warbles where it should be tight (the splines are not
for shifting,
> maybe for assembly or maybe the gear could be welded (maybe clearance
problems with
> welding) on the shaft.  The side face of the splined gear had a thrust
washer against
> the (pulley side) bearing boss & needle bearing, the other end of the
shaft did not have
> a thrust washer at the (brake side)case needle bearing.
>
> Does anyone have a exploded view of the transmission guts, showing thrust
washers etc.?
>   Has anyone encountered a whine caused by a loose splined idler gear?  
> Am
I on the
> right track?
> jim leuba
>
> leuba at cncrepair.com
>
>
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