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Re: (ET) Capacitor removal... fridges and pcb's
- Subject: Re: (ET) Capacitor removal... fridges and pcb's
- From: "Max Hall" <maxo iname com>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:43:21 -0400
- References: <NEBBKEKCELGGPNOOKKPJOEIBFLAA.pctrice@purdue.edu>
- Sender: owner-elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
Are you sure? Usually it's the refrigerant (Freon up until very recently)
that they have to worry about. You can't squirt that just any ol' place
anymore, what with the ozone hole and all.
And do you guys know how easy and cheap it is to make Polychlorinated
Biphenyls? No wonder there's a gajillion tons of it out there. And, as a
non-flammable, non-conducting liquid, it was a pretty good choice as an
electrical systems coolant. Too bad about the health effects.
-Maxo
http://www.maxmatic.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Trice" <pctrice purdue edu>
To: "RJ Kanary" <rjkanary nauticom net>; "Hazen, Dwight L"
<hazen indiana edu>; <elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>
Cc: "Phil C Trice" <pctrice purdue edu>
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: (ET) Capacitor removal...
> It's funny, but in my town, the street department will not pick up old,
dead
> refrigerators. The stated reason is that they have compressors, which
> have
> starter capacitors, which *may* have pcbs. End of discussion, "it's
policy",
> etc.
>
> -Phil Trice
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
> [mailto:owner-elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu]On Behalf Of RJ Kanary
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:32 PM
> To: Hazen, Dwight L; elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
> Subject: Re: (ET) Capacitor removal...
>
>
> They are most definitely there.Once you have experienced the aroma, you
will
> never forget it.I had a capacitor that had started leaking. I called the
> poison control center in Pittsburgh, concerning how to properly dispose
> of
> it. Believe it or not, the recommendation was, to wrap it in several
plastic
> bags, and dispose of it in the trash. The logic, if you can call it that,
> was the amount of PCB was so small, it posed no danger. I hope that fifty
> other people do not get the same idea, at the same time. Especially if
they
> all have the same refuse hauler.
>
>
> RJ Kanary
> Member TRNi Since 1998
> ASE® Certified Master Auto Technician
>
> rjkanary nauticom net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hazen, Dwight L" <hazen indiana edu>
> To: <elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu>
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 5:12 PM
> Subject: RE: (ET) Capacitor removal...
>
>
> > And I wonder about PCBs in the old capacitor.
> >
> > Dwight
> >
> > Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS
> > Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 Phone 812-855-5367 hazen indiana edu
> > http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh arrl net
> > IP Phone 317.278.4014 Change is inevitable except from a vending
> machine.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Roden (Akron OH USA) [mailto:roden ald net]
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:03 PM
> > To: elec-trak cosmos phy tufts edu
> > Subject: Re: (ET) Capacitor removal...
> >
> > On 21 Jun 2002 at 16:47, Elie, Larry (L.D.) wrote:
> >
> > > First, I got a GE motor-RUN capacitor, 4 micro-Farads, 660V, (I think
> the
> > 330
> > > and 440 are OK too) same rating, style, polarity (non) and vendor as
the
> > > original, $4 and change at Granger. Very cheap.
> >
> > You say "electrolytic," but the cap apparently shouldn't really be one.
A
> > friend of mine who's an electrical engineer and an EV old-timer advised
me
> > strongly against using an electrolytic in a ferroresonant charger. He
was
> > referring to a Lester charger, but the GE's principle is the same.
> > Here
> are
> >
> > his words:
> >
> > > They need to be high quality AC-rated dry film or oil-impregated
> > > paper capacitors. NOT electrolytics or DC-rated film capacitors!
> > > For efficiency, the capacitors need to have a low ESR and low
> > > losses. The capacitor winding is normally wound to produce
> > > high voltages, so 330vac to 660vac rated capacitors are
> > > normally used.
> > >
> > > The capacitance value is critical if you want good regulation.
> > > They usually use 2% to 4% accuracy, or hand-pick the capacitor
> > > to trim the output voltage to the desired value.
> > >
> >
> >
> > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
> > 1991 Solectria Force 144vac
> > 1991 Ford Escort Green/EV 128vdc
> > 1970 GE Elec-trak E15 36vdc
> > 1974 Avco New Idea 36vdc
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