<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <style type="text/css" style="display:none;"></style> </head> <body dir="ltr"> <div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols;" dir="ltr"> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I've been looking at replacement deck motors.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I have used the Black and Decker 36v drives and they are still running (2yr - 1acre).</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Another deck has tall motors and the terminal insulation is failing. I could switch a couple out with HD fat drives but would like to try newer drives.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br> </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">It seems the TORO 20" model #20360 uses the Ametek CPM-160. About 970watts. </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Motor + Fan + base+ blade,washer,nut = $245.87 from E Replacement.</p> <div><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br> </span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The Neuton CE6 motor setup, <span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols; font-size: 16px;">Motor + Fan + base+ blade,washer,nut = $138.54.</span></span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols; font-size: 16px;"><br> </span></span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols; font-size: 16px;">Anybody have any experience with these mowers?</span></span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols; font-size: 16px;"><br> </span></span></div> <br> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1"> <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Rod Hower <rodhower@ameritech.net><br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:45 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Charlie; Christopher Zach; Elec-Trak<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: (ET) Another mower motor blows.</font> <div> </div> </div> <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <div> <div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:標楷體,dfkai-sb; font-size:16px"> <div id="x_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1528643418012_587684" dir="ltr"><span id="x_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1528643418012_587843">I'll check with the guys at work, Ametek-Rotron Lamb electric, build thousands of PM motors, many of which are used as starters and sit beside the engine. I'm sure those guys have some pretty good ideas on which glues hold PM's in place. <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ametekdfs.com%2Fdfsbrands%2Fdrivemotors%2Fpmdc-motors&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cea47a1df57ea447d9aa908d5d0c6fbad%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636644475394115708&sdata=6uIikK05PGJI%2FNj%2BrWdT9fpi7PW5syJzMRGO927391g%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://www.ametekdfs.com/dfsbrands/drivemotors/pmdc-motors" shash="fFOKkpjjiJhdp3gwQRwL9j+3+SXiUDf4jStQFq/XeCLrYoHtpPlOk47SjJeo0ouXJrk8gVV9R38/cCiV8zdiF2LRiNfV+dXGmKzsSZtx8k4v75lL2NKB0ydwctMV7NiyTE4UR/jvZ/7sxpQPaXIUJobtPYIqC+IBAhVDlRTOMSE=" id="LPlnk304240" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"> http://www.ametekdfs.com/dfsbrands/drivemotors/pmdc-motors</a><br> </span></div> <div dir="ltr"><span id="x_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1528643418012_587843"></span></div> <div class="x_qtdSeparateBR"><br> <br> </div> <div class="x_yahoo_quoted" style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:標楷體,dfkai-sb; font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:57 PM, Charlie <medievalist@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font></div> <br> <br> <div class="x_y_msg_container"> <div id="x_yiv2287488327"> <div> <div>Steve Naugler figured out how to reglue the magnets, I think. Somebody did, anyway, you should be able to find it in the mailing list archives. <div><br clear="none"> <div> <div>--Charlie</div> </div> </div> </div> <br clear="none"> <div class="x_yiv2287488327yqt4388615538" id="x_yiv2287488327yqt86950"> <div class="x_yiv2287488327gmail_quote"> <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 7:22 PM Chris Zach <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:cz@alembic.crystel.com" id="LPlnk208654" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true">cz@alembic.crystel.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </div> <blockquote class="x_yiv2287488327gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:1px #ccc solid; padding-left:1ex"> Well, had the usual deck motor failure. This seems to happen every other <br clear="none"> year or so with tall thin motors:<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Mows fine one weekend.<br clear="none"> Start mower next weekend, tractor pulls huge amount of current. Blade is <br clear="none"> stopped.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Blade free-wheels, wiring to motor is smoked.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Take motor top off, commutator is burned, and armature is obviously <br clear="none"> shorted. Motor destroyed.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Any idea why this happens? The inside of the motor was dry, no problems, <br clear="none"> plenty of brush. It's as if the laminates just decide to fail and burn <br clear="none"> everything up.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Now to buy some more motors, my supply is low. This never happens to fat <br clear="none"> motors, they just have the magnets deglue and shatter all along the <br clear="none"> inside. 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